MHver3 @MHver3. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. 1 — and for No. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. That’s all I’ve got. ”See new Tweets. @MHver3. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Replying to @MHver3. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. 2. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. Replying to @MHver3. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Log in. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. That is all. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. 13. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. ”Log in. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. 6. Likes. Boise is not completely off the table in football. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. This will be my last tweet for a bit. That’s it. Yormark has a vision. MHver3 @MHver3. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. That was a guarantee. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @xtmountain. 19. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. I don’t hate the PAC. @MHver3. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Could also mean ND is rethinking. 2. 251. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Taking the four will crush the P12. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. Amazon gets more first choice. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Would need to probably add 6. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. OMG I was wrong. It was $24. They are looking at 1. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Replying to . Baylor is too. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. 19. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. " / Twitter. Learn more. Corey Wishnia. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. @MHver3. At least for the next 6-8 years. 23. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. We don’t have the endowment they have. 3 — is made for TV. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. Log in. @MHver3. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. March 7th. Staples: The realignment battle for No. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. Sign upSee new Tweets. Replying to @Tomkatf14. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Huge mistake. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Sign up. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Replying to @MHver3. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. 239. “@BobOThomson Yes. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. Quote Tweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Things have escalated. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. As did VT. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. @MHver3. that will be accurate. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign upLog in. ·. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. Found. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Likes. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. Replying to. 8 of them are. 2. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. help. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. No one has control. Likes. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. @MHver3. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. There’s a catch. Houston and BYU applications are in. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. Look for a thread soon. Likes. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. Replying to. MHver3 @MHver3. Boise. 1. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Likes. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). Quote. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 26. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. I’ve even called it that myself. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. @MHver3. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. @MHver3. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. 159. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. All 3 tiers. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. 21. @xtmountain. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. Retweets. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. Retweets. ” MHver3 @MHver3. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. twitter. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. 1. Show more replies. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Likes. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. MHver3 @MHver3. $320m per year for 12 years. 9. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Likes. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. MHver3 @MHver3. Likes. ”Log in. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. My source can confirm Colorado is. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. @MHver3. So not just a. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. I don’t hate the PAC. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 2. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Found. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. Now it’s been twice verified. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. Staples: The realignment battle for No. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. 5m. Ugh. 7. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). @MHver3. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. Jul 12. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. 2. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. Quote Tweets. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. 5% each. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. read image description. ”MHver3 @MHver3. 7:34 PM · Jul. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. Also a high ranking member of. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. 9. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. and @JimUSFSig. This happened sometime in the past few days. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. ”Log in. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). AZ has and AZSU problem. There. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). @bobtrollsby.